Képek
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Albinho
- Hozzászólások: 682
- Csatlakozott: 2008. június 21., szombat 19:17
- Kedvenc játékos: Frank Lampard
- Kedvenc exjátékos: Eidur Gudjohnsen
- Tartózkodási hely: Szentgotthárd
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Re: Képek
csak poénnak szántam...undertow írta:hát, nem biztos, hogy anelka jó néven venné a hasonlatot. vallási témában nem nagyon viccelődnek a muszlimok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCQI52zHBUI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Steffi
- Hozzászólások: 730
- Csatlakozott: 2005. december 16., péntek 15:53
- Kedvenc játékos: Drogba
- Tartózkodási hely: London
- Kapcsolat:
Képek
Reméljük nem sokra.undertow írta:és még vissza is dobálta, amit kapott.
idióta. annyi esze van, mint egy 10 évesnek.
lehet tippelni hány meccsre tiltják el...
Hajrá Kékek!
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undertow
- Site Admin
- Hozzászólások: 6656
- Csatlakozott: 2005. december 18., vasárnap 3:23
- Tartózkodási hely: Buda
Re: Képek
jó olvasgatást tore, aztán döntsd el magad, hogy vajon ki szart bele abba a palacsintába...
http://avis.dn.no/artikler/avis/article7178.ece
The Mikel process:
Through middle-men and agents, Chelsea started a partnership with Lyn
regarding young talents from Africa.
Lyn earned £10m on these players. The money from the Mikel sale
ended up in the pockets of the Lyn owner, Atle Brynestad.
By taking advantage of their secret partnership with Chelsea, the Lyn director, Morgan Andersen,
managed to earn Lyn £10m on African players. This money was secretely transferred from
Lyn to the Lyn owner's (Atle Brynestad) private business.
The FIFA rules are clear. European clubs are not allowed to sign contracts with
non-EU citizens before they are 18. The clubs are not allowed to give these youngsters money
eiether, in any way or form.
But clubs do anyway, through middle-men and agents.
The real story about Mikel starts when his club, Plateu United,
are paid £30k in 2003. Mikel is 16, and Chelsea and United have fallen in
love with him. Neither club will ever own up to paying this money, seeing as it
was an illegal payment. Neither of the clubs can publicly claim
to own the player at this stage, hence this hidden system must depend on trust.
Mikel was discovered by Joseph Dosu, former Nigerian International. He has previously
claimed that Chelsea paid to release him from Plateu United.
Dosu works as an advisor for young footballers for the Nigerian FA,
hence he could not himself represent Mikel as his agent. He put Mikel
in contact with John Shittu, a non-licensed Nigerian football agent.
It was Shittu who transferred the £30k to Mikels Club, Plateu. Shittu
worked as a talent scout for The Sports Enertainment & Media Grouo (SEM). SEM
was paid by Chelsea to scout for talents.
In the U-17 world cup in Finland in 2003, Mikel was brilliant, and the race for his
signature increased. A month after the world cup, it all came to head at the airport
in Lagos. In an attempt to capture Mikel and three other young Nigerian players, Chelsea invited all four to train with the club. All four had got tickets for the flight to London,
but in one way or another, United knew about Chelsea plan, and when the boys arrived
at the airport, a man from Manchester was there. And when the flight landed in London,
Mikel was not on the plane. He arrived in Manchester instead.
It was still another year and a half before Mikel was 18 and "legal". Lots could happen during
this period, and the interest from Manchester United's manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, seemed
to have faded. That's when Chelsea stepped in again.
"We sent Mikel to Ajax Cape Town in SOuth Africa" says a central Chelsea source.
The trusted Chelsea official explains how Chelsea broke the FIFA rules, in an attempt to keep
an eye on Mikel until he turned 18, when they could sign him.
Chelsea demanded that Ajax Cape Town signed a document saying Mikel belonged to Chelsea. The document was written on Ajax Cap Town's headed paper, on Ajax's PC, but dictated by Chelsea. No traces left.
According to the Chelsea source, Chelsea paid Mikel 200 rands a month, during the 6.month stay in Cape Town - also illegal according to FIFA's rules. The money did not come directly from Chelsea, but via Shittu and SEM.
Six months after arriving in Cape Town, the four Nigerian boys suddenly found themselves in Oslo. The idea to place them in Norway came from Rune Hauge's agency.
The problem was that it was not legal according to FIFA's rules.
Lyn struggled financially, and Morgan Andersen was employed to sort out the mess at the club. How could the club increase it's revenue? The answer was money transfers. Rune Hauge had a partnership with The Norwegian Elite Athelete's College. With
support from SEM, Hauge's company contacted this college regarding the players.
Central sources in Hauge's system confirms that one of the reasons to place the players at the college was to help Chelsea get around the FIFA rules. Hauge's company was SEM'S partner in Norway. Chelsea paid SEM, SEM paid Rune Hauge.
£180k was transferred to a Norwegian account. This should cover school fees, accommodation and living costs for the four players.The money, again, originated really from Chelsea. This publication also know that Chelsea paid the four player a salary when they
were in Norway.
Neither the school money or the pocket money came directly from Chelsea though. One way to sort out these payments was to over-pay
SEM for their scouting deal - so that SEM could fix everything, whithout any traces going back to Chelsea. But, when at a point
there was a problem with the pocket money, and Mikel and the other three went on strike and refused to attend classes, Chelsea interferred,
and the responsibility for the players was transferred to Rune Hauge.
In August 2004 a deal between the College and Rune Hauge was signed, to accommodate the players. Two weeks later, Hauge witnessed that Morgan Andersen
signed a document which stated that Lyn were not allowed to sell Mikel. To protect Chelsea's interest, Rune Hauge made a deal with Lyn, and point
four in the deal states that Lyn has no rights whatsoever in regards to a transfer to another club.
As a former Players' Union leader in Norway, Andersen knew FIFA would not accept the deal. Agents are not allowed to own footballers, as Andersen
think the deal stated.
There are no doubts that Lyn and Chelsea had a close relationship regarding the four Nigerian players. Chelsea looked at the players as their property,
and Lyn followed Chelsea's demands. This publication know of correspondence between the two clubs, where Lyn's medical team reports to Chelsea about the
players fitness and injuries.
15th September 2004 Morgan Andersen and Lyn signed two amateur contracts with Mikel, which Shittu signed one as Mikel's representative. The other one was
sent to Nigeria to Mikel's father, who signed it.
In April 2005, things started to happen quickly. Chelsea got a message from an Englishman living in Oslo. He had seen United's scouts together with
the four Nigerian players at a coffee bar in Oslo. Chelsea's Gwyn Williams travelled to Oslo, intent on getting the same from Lyn as they got
from Ajax Cape Town; a document stating that Mikel was owned by Chelsea.
At the same time Rune Hauge's company started putting pressure on Lyn. It was his company's responsibility that the players' stay in Oslo happened
as Chelsea wanted it to. The plan was a long-term relationship between Lyn and Chelsea. And Hauge was to be paid £200k a year for his role. If Hauge
failed, he could risk his future relationship with Chelsea.
Lyn and Morgan Andersen ignored Chelsea's offers and proposals. The Lyn owner's (Atle Brynestad) business struggled. He needed money. 22nd April 2005 Mikel
turned 18. Lyn claims Mikel signed his first professional contract that weekend. Not with Chelsea, not with United. But with Lyn.
This signature would have massive importance for Lyn. With Mikel signing a professional contract, Lyn could demand as much they wanted for him.
WIth Mikel's amateur contract, Lyn didn't have these rights. If a club offered Mikel a pro contract whilst still an amateur, Lyn would only receive a tiny
compensation for him.
But, Lyn kept quiet about the professional contract. No P.R. release, no press conference. Nothing.
Mikel's pro contract reveals some interesting information. Compared to the seven-month old amateur contract, the two contracts are very similar. It looks like
the first page is changed, so the dates are different. As well as the last page, with dates and signatures.
Mikel's salary is not changed; 33,500 Norwegian Kroner a month.
Everyone involved agrees that there are something wrong with the contracts today. But people are blaming each other.
Andersen has previously been done for fiddling with receipts, when he was leader for the Norwegian Athlete's Union.
Already when Lyn sorted out Mikel's professional contract, the club knew that Manchester United wanted to make a bid for the player. Contact with the English club
was established 15th April - one week before the professional contract was signed. Lyn knew there was money to be gained. And they also knew that if Mikel went to Chelsea,
they would get peanuts. The club ignored the agreements done with Chelsea.
But, Chelsea had no legal rights, and FIFA would never accept the agreements, most of them done verbally.
29th April 2005, a week after the professional contract was signed, Mikel signed for United, for £5m.
Rune Hauge got the news on TV that evening. He called his friend, Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson, and told him they had played dirty. Ferguson said his club had followed the rule book.
Neither Chelsea or United want to comment on the case. Both claims the clubs have made a confidenciality agreement regarding the Mikel deal.
http://avis.dn.no/artikler/avis/article7178.ece
The Mikel process:
Through middle-men and agents, Chelsea started a partnership with Lyn
regarding young talents from Africa.
Lyn earned £10m on these players. The money from the Mikel sale
ended up in the pockets of the Lyn owner, Atle Brynestad.
By taking advantage of their secret partnership with Chelsea, the Lyn director, Morgan Andersen,
managed to earn Lyn £10m on African players. This money was secretely transferred from
Lyn to the Lyn owner's (Atle Brynestad) private business.
The FIFA rules are clear. European clubs are not allowed to sign contracts with
non-EU citizens before they are 18. The clubs are not allowed to give these youngsters money
eiether, in any way or form.
But clubs do anyway, through middle-men and agents.
The real story about Mikel starts when his club, Plateu United,
are paid £30k in 2003. Mikel is 16, and Chelsea and United have fallen in
love with him. Neither club will ever own up to paying this money, seeing as it
was an illegal payment. Neither of the clubs can publicly claim
to own the player at this stage, hence this hidden system must depend on trust.
Mikel was discovered by Joseph Dosu, former Nigerian International. He has previously
claimed that Chelsea paid to release him from Plateu United.
Dosu works as an advisor for young footballers for the Nigerian FA,
hence he could not himself represent Mikel as his agent. He put Mikel
in contact with John Shittu, a non-licensed Nigerian football agent.
It was Shittu who transferred the £30k to Mikels Club, Plateu. Shittu
worked as a talent scout for The Sports Enertainment & Media Grouo (SEM). SEM
was paid by Chelsea to scout for talents.
In the U-17 world cup in Finland in 2003, Mikel was brilliant, and the race for his
signature increased. A month after the world cup, it all came to head at the airport
in Lagos. In an attempt to capture Mikel and three other young Nigerian players, Chelsea invited all four to train with the club. All four had got tickets for the flight to London,
but in one way or another, United knew about Chelsea plan, and when the boys arrived
at the airport, a man from Manchester was there. And when the flight landed in London,
Mikel was not on the plane. He arrived in Manchester instead.
It was still another year and a half before Mikel was 18 and "legal". Lots could happen during
this period, and the interest from Manchester United's manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, seemed
to have faded. That's when Chelsea stepped in again.
"We sent Mikel to Ajax Cape Town in SOuth Africa" says a central Chelsea source.
The trusted Chelsea official explains how Chelsea broke the FIFA rules, in an attempt to keep
an eye on Mikel until he turned 18, when they could sign him.
Chelsea demanded that Ajax Cape Town signed a document saying Mikel belonged to Chelsea. The document was written on Ajax Cap Town's headed paper, on Ajax's PC, but dictated by Chelsea. No traces left.
According to the Chelsea source, Chelsea paid Mikel 200 rands a month, during the 6.month stay in Cape Town - also illegal according to FIFA's rules. The money did not come directly from Chelsea, but via Shittu and SEM.
Six months after arriving in Cape Town, the four Nigerian boys suddenly found themselves in Oslo. The idea to place them in Norway came from Rune Hauge's agency.
The problem was that it was not legal according to FIFA's rules.
Lyn struggled financially, and Morgan Andersen was employed to sort out the mess at the club. How could the club increase it's revenue? The answer was money transfers. Rune Hauge had a partnership with The Norwegian Elite Athelete's College. With
support from SEM, Hauge's company contacted this college regarding the players.
Central sources in Hauge's system confirms that one of the reasons to place the players at the college was to help Chelsea get around the FIFA rules. Hauge's company was SEM'S partner in Norway. Chelsea paid SEM, SEM paid Rune Hauge.
£180k was transferred to a Norwegian account. This should cover school fees, accommodation and living costs for the four players.The money, again, originated really from Chelsea. This publication also know that Chelsea paid the four player a salary when they
were in Norway.
Neither the school money or the pocket money came directly from Chelsea though. One way to sort out these payments was to over-pay
SEM for their scouting deal - so that SEM could fix everything, whithout any traces going back to Chelsea. But, when at a point
there was a problem with the pocket money, and Mikel and the other three went on strike and refused to attend classes, Chelsea interferred,
and the responsibility for the players was transferred to Rune Hauge.
In August 2004 a deal between the College and Rune Hauge was signed, to accommodate the players. Two weeks later, Hauge witnessed that Morgan Andersen
signed a document which stated that Lyn were not allowed to sell Mikel. To protect Chelsea's interest, Rune Hauge made a deal with Lyn, and point
four in the deal states that Lyn has no rights whatsoever in regards to a transfer to another club.
As a former Players' Union leader in Norway, Andersen knew FIFA would not accept the deal. Agents are not allowed to own footballers, as Andersen
think the deal stated.
There are no doubts that Lyn and Chelsea had a close relationship regarding the four Nigerian players. Chelsea looked at the players as their property,
and Lyn followed Chelsea's demands. This publication know of correspondence between the two clubs, where Lyn's medical team reports to Chelsea about the
players fitness and injuries.
15th September 2004 Morgan Andersen and Lyn signed two amateur contracts with Mikel, which Shittu signed one as Mikel's representative. The other one was
sent to Nigeria to Mikel's father, who signed it.
In April 2005, things started to happen quickly. Chelsea got a message from an Englishman living in Oslo. He had seen United's scouts together with
the four Nigerian players at a coffee bar in Oslo. Chelsea's Gwyn Williams travelled to Oslo, intent on getting the same from Lyn as they got
from Ajax Cape Town; a document stating that Mikel was owned by Chelsea.
At the same time Rune Hauge's company started putting pressure on Lyn. It was his company's responsibility that the players' stay in Oslo happened
as Chelsea wanted it to. The plan was a long-term relationship between Lyn and Chelsea. And Hauge was to be paid £200k a year for his role. If Hauge
failed, he could risk his future relationship with Chelsea.
Lyn and Morgan Andersen ignored Chelsea's offers and proposals. The Lyn owner's (Atle Brynestad) business struggled. He needed money. 22nd April 2005 Mikel
turned 18. Lyn claims Mikel signed his first professional contract that weekend. Not with Chelsea, not with United. But with Lyn.
This signature would have massive importance for Lyn. With Mikel signing a professional contract, Lyn could demand as much they wanted for him.
WIth Mikel's amateur contract, Lyn didn't have these rights. If a club offered Mikel a pro contract whilst still an amateur, Lyn would only receive a tiny
compensation for him.
But, Lyn kept quiet about the professional contract. No P.R. release, no press conference. Nothing.
Mikel's pro contract reveals some interesting information. Compared to the seven-month old amateur contract, the two contracts are very similar. It looks like
the first page is changed, so the dates are different. As well as the last page, with dates and signatures.
Mikel's salary is not changed; 33,500 Norwegian Kroner a month.
Everyone involved agrees that there are something wrong with the contracts today. But people are blaming each other.
Andersen has previously been done for fiddling with receipts, when he was leader for the Norwegian Athlete's Union.
Already when Lyn sorted out Mikel's professional contract, the club knew that Manchester United wanted to make a bid for the player. Contact with the English club
was established 15th April - one week before the professional contract was signed. Lyn knew there was money to be gained. And they also knew that if Mikel went to Chelsea,
they would get peanuts. The club ignored the agreements done with Chelsea.
But, Chelsea had no legal rights, and FIFA would never accept the agreements, most of them done verbally.
29th April 2005, a week after the professional contract was signed, Mikel signed for United, for £5m.
Rune Hauge got the news on TV that evening. He called his friend, Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson, and told him they had played dirty. Ferguson said his club had followed the rule book.
Neither Chelsea or United want to comment on the case. Both claims the clubs have made a confidenciality agreement regarding the Mikel deal.
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ToreAndre
- Hozzászólások: 5221
- Csatlakozott: 2005. december 19., hétfő 13:27
- Tartózkodási hely: Budapest
Re: Képek
Pfff.... ne hülyéskedjetek. Teljesen egyértelmű, hogy a nagyobb pénz miatt döntött úgy, hogy idejön. Tudom Winston meg Grimi, hogy "elvileg" már a mi játékosunk volt, meg, hogy Morgan Andersen kavarta csak a szart! De, ha eleve hozzánk akart volna jönni, akkor nem víritott volna ManU mezben. Bírom a srácot, mert nagy munkabírású és végre a feje lágya is megkeményedett, de azért szar volt a palacsintában az ő igazolása körül...
Amúgy szerintem Ő az egyetlen egy játékos, akit két klubból igazoltunk. Ha jól emlékszem 4 millió fontot fizettünk a Lyn Oslo-nak, 12 millát meg a ManU-nak...
Amúgy szerintem Ő az egyetlen egy játékos, akit két klubból igazoltunk. Ha jól emlékszem 4 millió fontot fizettünk a Lyn Oslo-nak, 12 millát meg a ManU-nak...
Only one Di Matteo!
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DjNeo92
- Hozzászólások: 1201
- Csatlakozott: 2008. január 11., péntek 22:04
- Kedvenc játékos: Terry_Mikel
- Kedvenc exjátékos: Zola_Gullit
- Tartózkodási hely: Budapest
Re: Képek
már állítólag az se biztos hogy ő írta alá a szerződéstZsoca87 írta:Albinho írta:Azt ne feledjétek, hogy John Obio Mikel a manuréból jött!
igazából nem tud mennyire akart ő oda aláírni,
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Zsoca
- Hozzászólások: 6182
- Csatlakozott: 2006. augusztus 21., hétfő 14:28
- Kedvenc játékos: Michael Essien
- Kedvenc exjátékos: Claude Makelele Joe Cole
- Tartózkodási hely: Pécs
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Re: Képek
1 - És?Albinho írta:Azt ne feledjétek, hogy John Obio Mikel a manuréból jött!
2 - Egy meccset se játszott, sőt, igazából nem tud mennyire akart ő oda aláírni, szóval még azt se lehet mondani h onnan jött.
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Albinho
- Hozzászólások: 682
- Csatlakozott: 2008. június 21., szombat 19:17
- Kedvenc játékos: Frank Lampard
- Kedvenc exjátékos: Eidur Gudjohnsen
- Tartózkodási hely: Szentgotthárd
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Re: Képek
Azt ne feledjétek, hogy John Obio Mikel a manuréból jött!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCQI52zHBUI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Képek
Ja tényleg, jogos. Saha-nak csontra ugyanilyen órája van, az zavart megChelseafan írta:Nem nem, ez tényleg ő.
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Chelseafan
- Hozzászólások: 2775
- Csatlakozott: 2005. december 16., péntek 19:38
- Kedvenc játékos: Cesar Azpilicueta
- Kedvenc exjátékos: Didier Drogba
- Tartózkodási hely: Gelénes
Re: Képek
Nem nem, ez tényleg ő.
Re: Képek
Szépen rá van photoshop-ozva Saha-raAlbinho írta:
"Jaj, Istenem, hogy lehettem ilyen hülye hogy ide igazoltam...?"
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dunyha
- Hozzászólások: 863
- Csatlakozott: 2005. december 16., péntek 17:11
- Kedvenc játékos: Terry
- Kedvenc exjátékos: Zola
- Tartózkodási hely: Győr, Budapest, Érd
Re: Képek
lehet, hogy még ebből is látunk pénzt nem csak mutuból:DAlbinho írta:
"Jaj, Istenem, hogy lehettem ilyen hülye hogy ide igazoltam...?"
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Albinho
- Hozzászólások: 682
- Csatlakozott: 2008. június 21., szombat 19:17
- Kedvenc játékos: Frank Lampard
- Kedvenc exjátékos: Eidur Gudjohnsen
- Tartózkodási hely: Szentgotthárd
- Kapcsolat:
Re: Képek
"Jaj, Istenem, hogy lehettem ilyen hülye hogy ide igazoltam...?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCQI52zHBUI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
